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taken a step back on this debt ceiling standoff. should it be raised. this is how "the new york times" described it over the weekend. i'll put it up on the screen and have you react to it. backing down from the hardline stance, house republicans said friday they would agree to lift the federal government's statuary borrowing limit for three months with a requirement that both chambers of the congress pass a budget in that time to clear the way for negotiations on long-term deficit reduction to add muscle to the efforts to bring democrats to the table, they would include a provision in the debt ceiling legislation saying that lawmakers will not be paid if they do not pass a budget blueprint. was it right to step back from challenging the president over raising the debt ceiling? >> well, i think the house proposal is a step in the right direction. no doubt the senate hasn't done it's job. it's been nearly four years since it's passed a budget. the senate should pass a budget. but it doesn't go nearly far enough. we have a crisis. i just got back last week from afghanistan. and i had mul
in exchange. >> that's a warning shot from president obama on the debt ceiling deadline, making it clear he's not going to negotiate with the gop insisting on using it, but the president facing a gop unwilling to negotiate with him. a in lawmakers is newly elected congressman ted yoho, a tea party backed conservative. great to have you here. we appreciate your time. congratulations, as you were just recently sworn in. you have made a real name for yourself so far by saying that you really want to make john boehner accountable for what he's doing there on the hill. our first team is reporting that the chief goal of obama's press conference was to -- for raising or not raising the debt ceiling. then this morning former house speaker newt gingrich weighed in saying the gop congress is coming out a loser. >> it's a threat they can't sustain. no one is going to default. no one is going to allow the united states to not pay its bills. no one is going to accept the economic costs. it rallies the entire business community to the president's side. i don't think we should pick fights where we are in
is over. eric cantore proposes a three-month deal on the debt ceiling. some democrats are calling it a trap. i'll ask dnc chairwoman debbie wasserman schultz what she thinks. democrats are about to drop the ball. tonight, my message to senator harry reid. plus the american people are getting ripped off by a congress that just isn't working. congressman rick nolan, there 30 years ago. he is back now and he can't believe the difference. he is wondering, are we getting paid for this? >>> is it really an admission of guilt if you don't show any remorse? >> it did not even feel wrong? >> no. it's scary. >> did you feel bad about it? >> no. even scarier. >> psychologist dr. jeffrey gardere on lance armstrong's bizarre performance last night. >> good to have you with us tonight, folks. thanks for watching. republicans surrendered today in one of his biggest fights. president obama warned republicans about taking the debt ceiling hostage. it looks like they heard the message. >> the financial well-being of the american people is not leverage to be used. the full faith and credit of the un
tough ahead of the next big fight with congress over the debt ceiling. >>> the president said vice president biden has presented him with a list of common sense steps to prevent gun violence. but the biggest question is how much of it the administration can actually get passed through the congress. >>> and watching last night's golden globes, one thing was clear to me, america once again feels good about itself. we've got a new sense of optimism, and the movies show it. >>> the latest attack on science by a republican member of the house science committee. what a strange name for that crowd. that's in the "sideshow" tonight. and this is "hardball," the place for politics. zzzquil™ sleep-aid. it's not for colds. it's not for pain. it's just for sleep. because sleep is a beautiful thing™. ♪ zzzquil™. the non-habit forming sleep-aid from the makers of nyquil®. nothing. are you stealing our daughter's school supplies and taking them to work? no, i was just looking for my stapler and my... this thing. i save money by using fedex ground and buy my own supplies. that's a great id
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in the final news conference of the first term, the president took questions on the debt ceiling and the gun debate. first, on the rising debt ceiling, the president took direct aim at republicans accusing them of using the nation's credit rating as a, quote, bargaining chip. >> the republicans in congress had two choices here. they can act responsibly and pay america's bills or they can act irresponsibly and put america through another economic crisis. but they will not collect our ransom in exchange for not crashing the american economy. the issue here is whether or not america pays its bills. we are not a deadbeat nation. >> and the debate over guns, one month after 26 children and adults were killed in newtown, and with the nra saying assault weapon ban would not pass congress, the president urged house members to, quote, examine their own conscience. >> the belief that we have to have stronger background checks, that we can do a much better job in terms of keeping these magazine clips with high capacity out of the hands of folks who shouldn't have them, an assault weapons ban that's mea
ceiling, the house gop considering on raising the debt limit. we'll bring you more details and the senate judiciary committee, patrick leahy announced he'll be taking up issues of gun violence and immigration in the new term. republicans and democrats recently announced senate committee assignments and we'll talk about that as well. this afternoon the president kicked off the national day of service volunteering at a school here in the d.c. area. tomorrow he will take the oath of office in a private ceremony at noon. nbc's kristen welker is at the white house. nbc news senior political editor mark murray standing by with new insight from the new nbc news wall street journal poll. let me start with you. for folks who may not get this, a lot of folks wondering why is the president -- he's going to be sworn in on sunday and sworn in again on monday. what's the deal? >> reporter: well, craig, the reason is that the constitution states that the president has to be sworn in before noon on january 20th. january 20th falls on a sunday this year. it's the seventh time that happened in the nation's
dermott's reaction to the president's tough talk on the debt ceiling. e.j. dion and ruth con connaught on whether the republicans will actually listen. >>> one month after sandy hook, he has the president's gun recommendations. >> will spineless republicans kill reform? one threats impeachment if the president signs an executive order on guns. dan gross of the brady campaign is here with reaction to the president's comments that the nra is joining up fear to sell guns. >>> and former secretary of state colin powell calls out republicans on race. >> there is also a dark -- a dark vein of intolerance in some parts of the party. >> dr. james peterson janes me to discuss the republican response. >> good to have you with us tonight, folks. thanks for watching. president obama took on the single greatest threat to the global economy today, the republican party. the president used the final news conference of his first term to throw down the gauntlet. after years of deliberate confusion by republicans, president obama set the record straight on the debt ceiling. >> now, the other congressionally imposed
's report card. >> the debt ceiling is a dangerous game. >> i don't see that as a winner for them. >> don't fight battles you can't win. >> it is a troubled time for the party. >> let's stop for a second. >> let's make clear decisions. >> the republican strategy. >> stop talking about rape. >> don't fight battles you can't win. >> it is a troubled time for the party, get something done. >> we have to be the party of new solutions, we're not just going to be the party of no. >> it is groundhog day. >> the conservatives, the retreat, we've come a long way since. >> i'm ezra klein in for lawrence o'donnell, one of the great moments, when redford having just won the election, sits down on the bed taking it all in. the next few words are not just to ever film junky, pretty much to every political candidate. >> what do we do now? >> what do we do now? that is always the question, what do you do now when you have to govern? but it is not just a question that affects winners, sometimes losers of elections have to ask what do we do now? and for them the question can be harder to answer, after all,
conference in the first term. >> to draw the line on the debt compromises. >> raising the ceiling doesn't authorize more spending. >> the president clearly came out putting it on the republicans. >> republicans in congress have two choices here, they can act responsibly. >> this is such a recipe for disaster for the republican party. >> or they can act irresponsibly, they better choose quickly. >> frankly all republicans have to bargain with. >> yes, they are, yes, they are. >> they're holding us hostage. >> are we heading to a shutdown. >> this could be a financial disaster. not only for our country, but for the world. >> social security checks and veteran's benefits will be delayed. >> i don't think it is a question that is even on the table. >> ironically would probably increase our deficit. it is absurd. >> the president won't back down on the debt ceiling or on gun safety. >> the pressing issue of gun reform. >> exactly one month after the tragedy at sandy hook. >> if there is a step we can take that will save even one child we should take that step. >> gun violence continues to wr
. remember, raising the debt ceiling isn't additional spending but allows the government to pay the bills it's already racked up on money it's already spent. today, fitch ratings which sets credit ratings for countries around the world warned the u.s. could lose the aaa rating, the highest there is, if there's not a quote median-term deficit reduction plan put in place. what will it take to get a deal? we start with dan gross. his latest piece is titled "obama brinksmanship puts gop in tough spot on debt ceiling." so dan, you write that while you fall off a cliff, you only bump your head in to a ceiling but economically the ceiling has the capacity to deliver far more damage. you are talking like my friend steve kornacki here. what is failing to raise the debt ceiling? why is that going to be catastrophic? >> well, you know, first of all the stock and bond markets will really go haywire in a way they didn't when we were about to go over the fiscal cliff because government bonds are held by everybody. chinese central bank, japanese central bank, every single bank financial institution out the
obama set the record straight on the debt ceiling. >> now the other imposition is called the debt ceiling. something most americans had not heard of before two years ago. so i want to be clear about this. the debt ceiling is not a question of authorizing more spending. raising the debt ceiling does not authorize more spending. it simply allows the country to pay for spending that congress has already committed to. >> and of course republicans tried to trick americans into believing the debt ceiling was a blank check or magic credit card for the president to go spend whatever he wanted to spend. of course, the united states constitution gives the power to spend to congress. the result is the money congress has already borrowed. president obama explained to the american people in congress how they're trying to do their actual jobs. >> these are bills that are racked up. and we need to pay them. so while i'm we'illing to find compromise on how to pay our debts, americans should not be stopped from paying the bills we racked up. >> the country will be in a dire situation. president ob
republicans not to play politics with the debt ceiling. here is some of what he had to say. >> raising the debt ceiling does not authorize more spending. it simply allows the country to pay for spending that congress has already committed to. if congressional republicans refuse to pay america's bills on time, social security checks and veterans' benefits will be delayed. we might not be able to pay our troops our honor our contracts with small business owners. markets could go haywire, interest rates would spike for anybody who borrows money, every home own we are a mortgage. it would be a self-inflicted wound on the economy. so to even entertain the idea of this happening, of the united states of america not paying its bills, is irresponsible. it's absurd. >> well, the president hass got to get past the debt ceiling in order to achieve his second term agenda but how does he do it when some republicans are threatening shutdown. chuck todd and howard fineman. chuck, you know, i get the sense i was listening to the late general schwarzkopf, the man shaping the battlefield. he's basically
, next week we will authorize a three-month temporary debt ceiling increase. that was the announcement from the majority leader of the house republicans announcing they are giving up on what they had been saying for months was their plan, to not approve an increase in the debt ceiling to thereby push the country again into a self-imposed economic crisis and threat of defaulting on our national debt and all the panic we know that causes because they did it before in 2011. and eric cantore announced today they are not going to do that again even though they had been saying for months that they would. they gave up today on that threat. that's why the vix panic index stopped panicking today. that's the nice kickoff for what should be a nice weekend for the president. >>> new second term official portrait. to refresh your memory, this is the first term one. same flag pin, similar blue tie, i guess. lots more gray up top. i don't know why they decided to go from the close cropped i.d. photo look from the first term to the i'm standing here in my office and i'm happy to be here look. i kind o
a mistake by trying to link the debt ceiling to a deal on spending cuts. >> in the end, it's a threat they can't sustain. no one is going to default. no one is going to allow united states to not pay its bills. no one is going to accept the economic costs. it rallies the entire business community to the president's side. i don't think we should pick fights where we're in a position that we can't, in fact, in the end enforce our will. because we have no evidence of president obama's going to compromise. i think the president is deliberately seeking confrontation. he's going out of his way to bully the house republicans. >> and allen simpson, the co-founder of the campaign to fix the debt, also warning against bargaining over the debt ceiling. >> do you believe the gop should be using the debt ceiling as a leverage point to get the president to agree to the cuts? >> i think that would be a grave mistake. i don't think that would solve anything. i know they're going to try it. how far we'll go, i have no idea. if you're a real conservative, really honest conservative without hypocrisy, y
's going to start off talking about the debt ceiling. he'll call for republicans to raise it without a fight. but several gop members have already said the debt ceiling is going to be where they draw a line in the sand. >>> check out the first page of politico this morning. double trouble. house gop, eyes default, shutdown. and it talks about the very real possibility that house republican members want to see the government shut down or default if they don't get the cuts they want. >>> let me bring in "times" deputy bureau chief ed o'keefe. good morning to both of you. this is all just breaking now, but the president has said and he said it consistently. he's not negotiating over the debt ceiling. michael, is this more of what we're going to hear from him today? is he going to lay the groundwork for the battle ahead? >> i think so. to some degree i think what's happening is a game of chicken unfortunately. i know the financial markets hate it. and it kind of turns your stomach a little bit. but obama has said we're absolutely not negotiating over the weekend a significant event when
's the view of all of them. >> of course. >>> we'll move onto the debt ceiling with the government on pace to run out of money by mid-february. >> yesterday, the president warned republican leaders raising the nation's borrowing limit was non-negotiable and congress aimed to use it as lever eventuallyiage for deep s. >> while i'm willing to find middle ground to reduce our deficits, america cannot afford another debate. not paying its bills is irresponsible. it's absurd. republicans in congress have two choices here. they can act responsibly and pay america's bills or they can act irresponsibly and put america through another economic crisis. but they will not collect or ransom in exchange for not crashing the america economy. the financial well-being of the american people is not leverage to be used. the full faith and credit of the united states of america is not a bargaining chip. >> you know, it looks like republicans are up against another wall. but they're not going to be able to get -- they're not going to be able to get, quite frankly, some things they really want, if they're serio
ceiling on this debt ceiling front, which would be good. they are going to keep us going every three months. we never get around to talking about the larger economic question. >> i don't want to have that conversation in the context of the three-month debt ceiling deals. if we are going talk entitlements, is there room to push on the entitlements and suggest a larger social safety net, things like providing opportunities for poor children beginning to close the wealth gap is a priority. >> raise the health care law. i think it's very important to remember that law isn't fully operational, yet. there is -- yes, exactly. there's an enormous amount of work to do. there's a lot of resistance in the states. that's going to be a struggle. >> one piece of that is in 1997 we did a balanced budget deal. one thing that happened when that period of republicans and democrats came together was step back and as part of consolidating the budget, they shift resources. that was the deal. it was a deficit reduction deal. one thing it created was a children's health program. it's functioning today. it
votes do provide a template for how, by the way, the debt ceiling might ultimately get raised. on the tax deal, house republican leaders had political cover from senate republicans. on sandy, chris christie provided the political cover, leaving house leaders, frankly, cowering. now the kotch brothers, through a group they backed, called americans for prosperity, are the latest to give boehner and other house leaders cover on the debt ceiling, as they get their rank and file to pick other political fights. tim phillips, president of americans for prosperity, told the financial times, quote, we're saying calibrate your message, focus on long-term spending instead of long-term debt. focusing on the debt ceiling makes the message more difficult. when i asked walden about the debt ceiling yesterday, he was clearly noncommittal, hinting on where the republican leadership maybe is on this. if there's not a majority in the house republican to raise the debt limit, but there is a majority in the house of representatives to raise a clean debt limit, would this leadership be willing to d
asserted the consequences of failing to increase the debt ceiling are real, but so, too, are the consequences of allowing our spending problem to go unresolved. it was a response to this stern warning from the president on monday. >> they will not collect a ransom in exchange for not crashing the american economy. the financial well being of the american people is not leveraged to be used. >> if the tenor of the president's last press conference of his first term is any indication about what he expects in his second term, prepare for a bond-style showdown as the government barrels towards its borrowing limit. that said, there might exist a solution that would allow congress to do what it does best, which is to say nothing at all, and still save the economy. this do nothing approach was floated by senate minority leader mitch mcconnell in 2011, and president obama gave it a hat tip yesterday. >> they want to put the responsibility on me to raise the debt ceiling, i'm happy to take it. mitch mcconnell, the republican leader in the senate, had a proposal like that last year
the debt ceiling. and in the rewrite tonight, the idiotic things republicans are saying about guns, and why president reagan and president george w. bush would disagree with them. nothing. are you stealing our daughter's school supplies and taking them to work? no, i was just looking for my stapler and my... this thing. i save money by using fedex ground and buy my own supplies. that's a great idea. i'm going to go... we got clients in today. [ male announcer ] save on ground shipping at fedex office. omnipotent of opportunity. you know how to mix business... with business. and you...rent from national. because only national lets you choose any car in the aisle. and go. you can even take a full-size or above. and still pay the mid-size price. i could get used to this. [ male announcer ] yes, you could business pro. yes, you could. go national. go like a pro. kozachik, k >>> a quick update, joy reid and karen finney apparently didn't change the minds of the nra in the first segment, the ad regarding president obama has not been taken down. the ad has been making the website crash and sometim
and they will be able to meg officiate on the debt ceiling. you about want to find a way out of getting boxed in on the debt ceiling themselves, believing a fight over funding the government is a much better political fight for their party. here's congresswoman marsha blackburn yesterday. >> i think there is a way to avoid default. if it requires shutting down certain portions of the government, let's look at that. >> yesterday the president sounded almost resign to the idea a government shutdown is probably coming up. >> if the republicans in congress made a decision they want to shouldn't down the government in order to get their way, then they have the -- votes at least in the house of representatives probably to do that. i think that would be a mistake. and it would be profoundly damaging to our economy. >> once again, what the white house was trying to signal on debt limit in government shutdown is this. they are not going the try to help republicans find a way out of it. they have to own debt limit and republican leaders know they need to move off of debt limit. they are trying to find
will not negotiate around the debt ceiling. you know, we're not going to play the same game that we saw happen in 2011. so we're not going to do that. but i will not negotiate around the debt ceiling. we're not going to do that again. >> as i said earlier this week, one of the things i will not compromise over is whether or not congress should pay the tab for a bill they've already racked up. >> what i will not do is to have that negotiation with the gun at the head of the american people. that's not how we're going to do it this time. >> this evolution in the president's strategy for dealing with republicans and recognizing their strategy against him and knowing what he can and cannot expect to get out of them. on the last business day of his first term, it paid off today. and them giving up their demand that he needed to negotiate with them on the debt ceiling. today they recognized that they were not going to get that. and today the republicans caved. and the vix was very happy. at this point, the republicans are still trying to hand contingencies on this. they're still trying to say, they'
to fight over. is it debt ceiling, is it sequestration, is it the resolution later in march? they could use that bell to call them to order there but it's hard to think that they could find a path. you've got on the one hand, a lot of distension in the rarngs there. but, also, just public opinion seems to be stacked against them. they're on the wrong side of so many issues. they seem to be wanting to plot a course right in the near term. but i think on the other hand, if you look at what democrats are doing, they're trying to chart a course that looks more like where america is more broadly. of course it would put them in good standing for 2014 and 2016. >> now, wes, when we look at the fact that they seem to be further and further away. committee reports that many republicans scoff at the idea of a debt ceiling disaster. and it reads, let me read this to you, to these conservatives, hitting the debt ceiling is no armageddon and the idea of default is just a scare tactic. and they claim not to be frightened. i mean, we could have different opinions, but we can't have different facts. the de
debt ceiling. >> it would be a self inflicted wound on the economy, it would slow down our growth. might tip us in to recession. and ironically, would probably increase our deficit. so to even entertain the idea of this happening, of the united states of america not paying its bills, is irresponsible. it's absurd. we are not a deadbeat nation. >> thank goodness. but next, news flash, we already hit the ceiling two weeks ago. and the treasury's been using, quote, extraordinary measures to pay its bills. what does that even mean? the money shuffle can't last forever. the u.s. is out of money to pay its bills, it's already spent in less than four weeks. i have cousins that do that. they play to hold the debt ceiling hostage. aides say half the conference is ready to let the nation default. speaker boehner will school them on the real threat later this week. even a temporary extension for, say, two or three months could rattle the markets and threaten the nation's credit rating. last time they hashled out a debt deal? summer of 2011 and we ended up more than a trillion dollars in mand
to face the tax issue, as well. it's not just raising the debt ceiling that he's going to have to deal with. but he's going to have to negotiate with the republicans and perhaps try to change the tax code. all of these things are things he's already signaled he wants to do. what's fascinating is that this is a president who wanted to be a domestic president in the last -- in his first term and he was saddled with an economic situation and two wars to deal with. now is a shot to be that domestic president and make some really big change. but he's going to have to work with republicans in the house in order to get big things accomplished. >> and clearly what he wants to do is have some influence on voters. and though the official announcement is expected today, we do know that obama for america is going to become this nonprofit supporting his agenda. what kind of influence could this have? >> well, i think if you're an obama supporter, you hope it has more influence than it did or what they tried to do during his first term. they talked a lot about this leveraging his campaign which ever
ceiling impasse. he calls it a short-term debt limit extension. you may know it better as kicking the can down the road. which reminds me, there was someone just a few months ago who was famously against that kind of a deal. who was it? >> kick the can. kick the can. kick the can. >> right, of course. that's who it was. joining us is jonathan alter and jared bernstein. welcome to you both. john, we've seen speaker boehner's power getting weaker and weaker. is paul ryan now the de facto head of the gop? >> well, you know, actually, martin, i think he has been much more influential than people realize -- >> because he's been quite quiet publicly. >> going back to 2011. he has so much respect within that republican caucus. he's the guy who killed simpson/bowl simpson/bowles. he was on the simpson/bowles commission and wasn't willing to have any revenue increases. his fingerprints were not on it. and then when it came to the grand bargain, he told john boehner wait until the election. don't do this deal. so this is more of the same from him in his own relatively quiet way because he is much m
-term debt ceiling extension. is it too short? does this get us past the hump? >> well, you know, look, this is an attempt by republicans to acknowledge that in a way president obama has won on the i won't negotiate. >> it's not ending the problem, but it is an acknowledgment by house republicans that having that fight right now is not one that is politically advantageous for them, and not advantageous for the country. it does not mean, however -- obviously, it does not mean that we may not have down the road in three months time, and now kind of mid to late spring, we may not have the fight we are expecting to have next month. >> only 44% disapproval rating for the president. that's a pretty good head of steam going in. real concerns about whether the president and congress can do mying about the economy, which is job one. >> the vast majority say it's in the wrong direction. there is a pessimism, is the best word i can use, about the deposit's willingness and i think even more worrisome ability to fix the problem. >> there is a decline in confidence. there is a broader trend, but it'
across the country. >> we're going to change to debt ceiling now. white house leader eric cantor says the gop -- they're going to give them a three-month reprieve, they're going to temporarily approve a debt limit increase. the president said no negotiating on the debt limit ceiling. is this a victory for the president or do you see this as just a postponing of the inevitable standoff? >> it's both. it is a victory for the president, the republicans have been saying, we're not going to raise the debt ceiling unless we have every dollar of the debt ceiling goes to spending of that same amount. they've conceded they're going to extend the debt ceiling without any cuts. but that moves us to now where government funding expires on march 31th. at that point, we'll have a s w showdown in which republicans insist on spending cuts. there will still be some kind of fight. we will have a clock to some kind of catastrophic event that could happen, like we had in december. but it would not be with the debt ceiling. the republicans seem to have conceded to the obama. they're worried that obama ha
to be a little breezy as well. meanwhile the problem break through on the debt ceiling. the house gop said they are considering raising the debt limit for three months, a vote is scheduled next week, more details on that in a bit. >>> today, of course is the last full day of president obama's first term and it's the national day of service. day for giving back. earlier today the president and first lady volunteered at a school in the washington, d.c. area, nbc's ron is standing by the national day of service day tent at the mall and you have a special guest there with you as well, good day to you, sir? >> reporter: hey there, craig. my special guest is being mobbed by the crowd behind me. it's the senior adviser to president obama. she will make her way here in a second. as she comes up, we will give her a big welcome. welcome, valerie. pleasure to see you. >> pleasure to be here. can you believe the crowd? it's amazing. >> reporter: the president and first lady created this to really hopefully make it a standing tradition for inaugurations going forward. >> not just inaugurations, my mess
these crises. this is coming up again in february when it's going to be time to raise the nation's debt ceiling, and there's no clear path in during that at this point. it will happen in march when they have to extend government funding, and will the government shut down if they don't? these budget battles will continue to find congress, and there's really no way out, so if we -- if congress can't resolve a lot of these issues, you probably bet that that approval rating will be and will go even lower if that's possible. >> it is possible. the numbers, as we're looking at it just a moment ago, manu and meredith, hit in the 10% range not too long ago. the question is will they go single digit? on abc this week senator joe manchin had some things to say about getting things done in both chambers. listen to this, and i'll get your reaction. >> okay. >> i've yet to have a bipartisan meeting that's been organized where republicans and democrats in the senate sit down and work through their problems. think about just in the senate we don't have that type of dialogue going on from democrats and republi
nothing and there are also no meetings even planned regarding the debt ceiling and the inevitable issue that is are faced by those who need to make the decisions for us. >> yeah. we have got this triple deadline coming up. and nobody -- everybody says they don't want to do it at the last minute the way we did with the fiscal cliff but nobody seems to be talking about it yet. you don't have negotiations started. granted we are in a bit of a holding pattern with the inauguration coming up and maybe things start to happen after that but nobody seems to be jumping in proactively for a solution to these issues that are coming up and that's because they're tough decisions. they're hard. and nobody has something that is universally palatable ready to off offer. >> with that said, will we see a separation of spending cuts the republicans say they want to desperately and separate it from the debt ceiling? as the president said, you can't run out on a meal you have eaten. this is not new debt. this is bills we have acquired. the government and this country must be obligated to do the same. >> wel
for the debt ceiling proposal. that was from the last time the house republicans threatened the country with defaulting on our debt back in 2011. dennis ross, you probably should have calibrated your place in line a little better. throw a democrat in there ahead of you when you realize that's what you're going to get. get there in time for the repeal prohibition amendment next time. that's more fun. if you have found yourself at home constitutionally -- forgive me, constitutionally incapable of getting excited over having another fight about the debt ceiling this year, if this isn't exciting because it just feels like groundhog day to you, oh my god, i've got reckless brinksmanship fatigue, it is true that it's hard to get excited over something we have done before. it is 2013 now. remember when it happened it was a total disaster. even if you just ignore the political consequences, if you just look at the economic impact, it was a self-imposed economic disaster caused by washington refusing to do something that it needs to do and that it has done dozens of times before. republicans jus
, give the weight of what happens if we breech the debt ceiling? social security checks will be late, veterans benefits delayed, troops won't get paid, tax returns held up, interest rates could spike, markets could go hay wooir. it could dip into the recession. deficit would go up. i mean, we're talking about a very punishing thing that will affect american people who had nothing to do with what they're trying to object to or deal with. >> you oo >> you're absolutely right. congress spent that money. they spent it. whether they liked it or not, they were the ones who spent it. but it's more important than that. it's what you point out. the stakes here are really high for the republican party. far be it from you to advise the republican party. but if i did, i would say stay away from shutting the government down. stay away from letting the debt ceiling not be raised because those are things that the american people will hate. they'll hate us defaulting onli blame you for it. they'll hate us shutting the government down. if you want to make a stand, make it in the sequester. the seques
refused, saying they're refusing to negotiate over the debt ceiling. question is show, how do they enforce not negotiating when they have their own arcane plan b. over the weekend, the treasury didn't department took one of toews off the table. the trillion dollar platinum coin. senate democrats suggested another plan brk. they wrote in a letter to the president that if the republicans refused to raise the debt ceiling or agreed to do it as part of unbalanced legislation, then we believe you must be willing to take any lawful steps to ensure that america does not break its promises and trigger a global economic crisis without congressional approval if negative. so senate democrats are beg igi the white house to consider maybe it's the 14th amount md option. whatever it is, they're begging the white house to find a plan b. meanwhile, the republican leadership is quietly trying to push itself rank and file away from a debt ceiling showdown, believing the fight worth having is over funding the government in a potential government shutdown. the risk, if they use debt ceiling as the leverage po
. i mean, i think it would be, frankly, another disaster if republicans try to use the debt ceiling, to force dollar-for-dollar budget reductions. i don't see that as a winner for them, and i can't imagine at least the party establishment is now seeing that as a potential winner for them. i mean, you know, face it. the president won the election. and he laid out a program and a philosophy, and he won the election on it. and i think as long as republicans are going to take the stance that he didn't win and that, in fact, they won and therefore they get to do things their way, i don't think -- i don't see how that's going to help them get out of that 14% hole. >> eugene, nbc.com had a very interesting way of putting it this morning, a very nice tag which is that what the electorate is looking for right now is not so much hope but a president who can cope. it's all about coping, not so much hoping. do you think that this kind of poll suggests that he is going to be able to deliver on that message of coping? >> well, you know, first of all, i think that's right. i think that, you know,
ceiling. geithner says he will replace the money, about $156 billion, once the debt limit is raised. it should not jeopardize monthly pension payments. >>> the world anti-doping agency says if lance armstrong wants to compete, he'll have to testify under oath. in a tell-all interview with oprah airing tonight, armstrong admits to doping. we're also hearing from the livestrong foundation which said in a statement, we expect lance to be completely truthful and forthcoming in his interview and with all of us in the cancer community. inspired by the people with cancer whom we serve, we feel confident and optimistic about the foundation's future and welcome an end to speculation. >>> just moments ago, look at this, crews rescued a woman who had been trapped for several hours in between buildings in portland, oregon. she apparently went out for a smoke break and somehow fell into a tight space between those buildings. firefighters actually had to cut through a wall of a parking garage to get her out. she was smiling, though when she was pulled out. >>> japan's top two airlines clipped the
economy hostage. if the house can pass a clean debt ceiling increase and meeting the existing obligations we will be happy to consider it. here we are as i said three days before inauguration and it looks like another fight that the republicans are not prepared to it seems to follow through on despite the threats. >> zachary and i were having a conversation in the green room and i said i don't understand the meaning of a second inauguration for the president. i get it now. the reason we need another inauguration is apparently one party doesn't understand we had an election in november and they lost. which means that you move on and you let the president be the president of the united states. these guys still want to fight the old battles of 2012. >> but they're giving this extension now. >> a three-month extension. the white house should tell them to go shove it. you can't run a government three months at a time. you have to have a long-term planning. bad for the markets. bad for the country. bad for the economy. let's make clear, definitive decisions. you lost. let's come together and co
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